Comments on: Jim Lonborg in . . . the Nagging Question http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/ Voice of the Mathematically Eliminated Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:11:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: sly jones http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6930 sly jones Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:25:35 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6930 <b><a></a>26.</b>  As soon as someone said BJ Upton reminded them of Darryl Strawberry, I knew he was going to break my heart. And when he scored the tying second run in Game Five, I knew it was true. Imagine my unfettered joy when he came up in the eighth with the tying run on base and grounded into a double play. Awwwwwww yeah. 26.  As soon as someone said BJ Upton reminded them of Darryl Strawberry, I knew he was going to break my heart.

And when he scored the tying second run in Game Five, I knew it was true.

Imagine my unfettered joy when he came up in the eighth with the tying run on base and grounded into a double play.

Awwwwwww yeah.

]]> By: weatherman http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6929 weatherman Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:04:46 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6929 <b><a></a>25.</b>  Dodgers fan here. I root for the National League regardless. I have a problem rooting for the Giants, needless to say, but I would rather they win the WS than some team from the AL with a 43 year-old former NL first-baseman making 8 million a year so they don't have to worry about when they should pull their pitcher. I also hate asymmetrical outfield walls and the Yankees. It makes it easy come October. Go Phillies. 25.  Dodgers fan here. I root for the National League regardless. I have a problem rooting for the Giants, needless to say, but I would rather they win the WS than some team from the AL with a 43 year-old former NL first-baseman making 8 million a year so they don’t have to worry about when they should pull their pitcher. I also hate asymmetrical outfield walls and the Yankees. It makes it easy come October. Go Phillies.

]]> By: Josh Wilker http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6928 Josh Wilker Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:21:46 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6928 <b><a></a>24.</b>  <a href="#23" rel="nofollow">23</a> : Ellen, I should warn you not to lean toward the Phillies. Your Yankee compatriot Akim has already harangued me (and called my manhood into question, and implied that I was never born but "dug up," and called me "a sham", etc., etc.) for abandoning the American League in the upcoming World Series. 24.  23 : Ellen, I should warn you not to lean toward the Phillies. Your Yankee compatriot Akim has already harangued me (and called my manhood into question, and implied that I was never born but “dug up,” and called me “a sham”, etc., etc.) for abandoning the American League in the upcoming World Series.

]]> By: ellen9 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6927 ellen9 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:04:27 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6927 <b><a></a>23.</b>  I will never forget an early roommate of mine, who rooted for whichever city she would more like to live in. When applied to the weekly football pool, it produced surprisingly good results. In a series like this I usually start out nominally nonpartisan, eschewing hatred, transcending attachment, embracing the game as game. By the end I've always got a favorite. I'll have to see how this develops, but frankly I can't imagine rooting for either, tho' watching the games should be good. 23.  I will never forget an early roommate of mine, who rooted for whichever city she would more like to live in. When applied to the weekly football pool, it produced surprisingly good results.

In a series like this I usually start out nominally nonpartisan, eschewing hatred, transcending attachment, embracing the game as game. By the end I’ve always got a favorite. I’ll have to see how this develops, but frankly I can’t imagine rooting for either, tho’ watching the games should be good.

]]> By: Brent is a Dodger Fan http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6926 Brent is a Dodger Fan Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:27:42 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6926 <b><a></a>22.</b>  Generally, I tend to follow the whomever-beat-us philosophy, unless there are other phenomena to guide me, such as: - I have a good friend who loves the Angels the way I love the Dodgers, so I can comfortably back the Angels - My Dad grew up watching the Cubs, so I can back the Cubs (when they aren't playing the Dodgers) - The Yankees are spawn of the devil, so I celebrate in a small way each year when the Yankees are eliminated. - Jint fans are particularly detestable in their hatred of the Dodgers, and one major defense I offer is "the phrase, World Champion San Francisco Giants, has never been uttered in truth". So I also celebrate a little when the Jints are eliminated. 2002 was too close for comfort. - The Red Sox are gaining on the Yankees, so I have to admit that I was pleased to see the Rays beat them. - And though it overlaps with the base-philosophy, I am sick and tired of all this "The AL is a superior league" crap, so I'm happier these days if the NL team wins. 22.  Generally, I tend to follow the whomever-beat-us philosophy, unless there are other phenomena to guide me, such as:

- I have a good friend who loves the Angels the way I love the Dodgers, so I can comfortably back the Angels

- My Dad grew up watching the Cubs, so I can back the Cubs (when they aren’t playing the Dodgers)

- The Yankees are spawn of the devil, so I celebrate in a small way each year when the Yankees are eliminated.

- Jint fans are particularly detestable in their hatred of the Dodgers, and one major defense I offer is “the phrase, World Champion San Francisco Giants, has never been uttered in truth”. So I also celebrate a little when the Jints are eliminated. 2002 was too close for comfort.

- The Red Sox are gaining on the Yankees, so I have to admit that I was pleased to see the Rays beat them.

- And though it overlaps with the base-philosophy, I am sick and tired of all this “The AL is a superior league” crap, so I’m happier these days if the NL team wins.

]]> By: Eric Enders http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6925 Eric Enders Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:50:45 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6925 <b><a></a>21.</b>  Usually I'll develop a secondary team to root for based on my affinity for certain players. In recent years that team has been Cleveland because I'm a huge fan of Sabathia and Sizemore. Before that it was the Bagwell-Biggio Astros. At one point it was the Red Sox because they employed several of my favorite ex-Dodgers (Offerman and the Martinez Bros.) 2007 Rockies 2006 Tigers 2005 Astros 2004 Red Sox 2003 Anybody but the Yankees 2002 Anybody but the Giants 2001 Anybody but the Yankees 2000 Anybody but the Yankees 1999 Anybody but the Yankees 1998 Anybody but the Yankees 1997 Cleveland 1996 Anybody but the Yankees 1995 Cleveland 1993 Blue Jays 1992 Blue Jays 1991 Twins 1990 Reds 1989 Anybody but the Giants 1988 - 1987 Twins 1986 Red Sox 1985 Royals That's about as far back as I remember. 21.  Usually I’ll develop a secondary team to root for based on my affinity for certain players. In recent years that team has been Cleveland because I’m a huge fan of Sabathia and Sizemore. Before that it was the Bagwell-Biggio Astros. At one point it was the Red Sox because they employed several of my favorite ex-Dodgers (Offerman and the Martinez Bros.)

2007 Rockies
2006 Tigers
2005 Astros
2004 Red Sox
2003 Anybody but the Yankees
2002 Anybody but the Giants
2001 Anybody but the Yankees
2000 Anybody but the Yankees
1999 Anybody but the Yankees
1998 Anybody but the Yankees
1997 Cleveland
1996 Anybody but the Yankees
1995 Cleveland
1993 Blue Jays
1992 Blue Jays
1991 Twins
1990 Reds
1989 Anybody but the Giants
1988 –
1987 Twins
1986 Red Sox
1985 Royals

That’s about as far back as I remember.

]]> By: 3rd gen yankee fan http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6924 3rd gen yankee fan Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:10:57 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6924 <b><a></a>20.</b>  Here's my rooting logic: 1. ABB. Anybody But Boston. 2. Any team that the Yankees do not have a perceived grudge or rivalry with (according to me). For instance I could easily root for the Phillies if they were playing the Sux, but it was extremely difficult for me to root for the Angels this year. Also, cannot root for the Dodgers due to rivalries in 1970s, and sympathetic rooting interest with my beloved, a Giants fan. 3. Any team outside "our" division, the AL East. Just can't root for a team that we play 18 games against every year. 4. Any team whose fans aren't jerks (again, subjective). 5. Any team whom the media does not constantly fawn over for no good reason (see also #1). 6. The home team of wherever I happen to be living. Could easily root for Kansas City if they ever go anywhere, unless of course they are playing the Yankees. I won't be rooting for the Rays due to #3, and won't really be rooting for the Phils due to #4 (more data required though). I'm just looking forward to some really good baseball with pretty much NO rooting interest! Ahhhh it feels so good! 20.  Here’s my rooting logic:

1. ABB. Anybody But Boston.
2. Any team that the Yankees do not have a perceived grudge or rivalry with (according to me). For instance I could easily root for the Phillies if they were playing the Sux, but it was extremely difficult for me to root for the Angels this year. Also, cannot root for the Dodgers due to rivalries in 1970s, and sympathetic rooting interest with my beloved, a Giants fan.
3. Any team outside “our” division, the AL East. Just can’t root for a team that we play 18 games against every year.
4. Any team whose fans aren’t jerks (again, subjective).
5. Any team whom the media does not constantly fawn over for no good reason (see also #1).
6. The home team of wherever I happen to be living. Could easily root for Kansas City if they ever go anywhere, unless of course they are playing the Yankees.

I won’t be rooting for the Rays due to #3, and won’t really be rooting for the Phils due to #4 (more data required though). I’m just looking forward to some really good baseball with pretty much NO rooting interest! Ahhhh it feels so good!

]]> By: sly jones http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6923 sly jones Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:07:50 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6923 <b><a></a>19.</b>  125 years. One World Series title. What's not to cheer for? (Cheering for the Phillies from Allentown.) 19.  125 years. One World Series title.
What’s not to cheer for?

(Cheering for the Phillies from Allentown.)

]]> By: Josh Wilker http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6922 Josh Wilker Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:20:41 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6922 <b><a></a>18.</b>  <a href="#14" rel="nofollow">14</a> : Yes, I'm aware of that article, thanks to Tireless Bob Timmermann. I'd known about Kerouac's baseball game for a while, but I definitely learned more about it from the article. <a href="#16" rel="nofollow">16</a> : Amen. But I really liked this year's team a lot, and it hurts a little that they won't be as celebrated as the heroes of '04 and '07. In the end they were just one lightning bolt short. 18.  14 : Yes, I’m aware of that article, thanks to Tireless Bob Timmermann. I’d known about Kerouac’s baseball game for a while, but I definitely learned more about it from the article.

16 : Amen. But I really liked this year’s team a lot, and it hurts a little that they won’t be as celebrated as the heroes of ’04 and ’07. In the end they were just one lightning bolt short.

]]> By: Peanut http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6921 Peanut Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:17:43 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/10/20/jim-lonborg-in-the-nagging-question/#comment-6921 <b><a></a>17.</b>  I sort of root for the team with the better home ballpark, and I factor in how much I like or dislike any fans of theirs I've met. I've never met a Rays fan, but I've spent time around Philadelphia and liked most of the Phillies fans I met. For the last few years before the White Sox won, I was bitter and rooted for the team whose success would make the fewest people happy or the most people unhappy. That meant I was usually a Yankee fan. In 2005 I really wanted the Cardinals to beat the Astros, because I was certain the White Sox would lose a World Series game because of the hill in centerfield or something stupid. It was kind of fun watching the Bushes seeing their team lose though. 17.  I sort of root for the team with the better home ballpark, and I factor in how much I like or dislike any fans of theirs I’ve met. I’ve never met a Rays fan, but I’ve spent time around Philadelphia and liked most of the Phillies fans I met.
For the last few years before the White Sox won, I was bitter and rooted for the team whose success would make the fewest people happy or the most people unhappy. That meant I was usually a Yankee fan.
In 2005 I really wanted the Cardinals to beat the Astros, because I was certain the White Sox would lose a World Series game because of the hill in centerfield or something stupid. It was kind of fun watching the Bushes seeing their team lose though.

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