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		<title>By: 75reds</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/09/bill-travers/#comment-11910</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blasphemy! Topps put out cards with photos from the previous year? I&#039;ll have to dig up my cards and study this bit of trickery with fresh eyes. Even though, as you scholars of the Cardboard Gods point out, this Bill Travers card is indeed from the same photo shoot, the expression is, as Josh remarks, a perfect summation of the Brewers, mid-70&#039;s. The starting rotation of the &#039;76 Brewers couldn&#039;t be more undistinguished (Jim Slaton, Travers, Jim Colburn, Jerry Augustine, and Pete Broberg), despite the best season of Travers&#039; otherwise mediocre career: 15-16, 2.81, 15 CG.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blasphemy! Topps put out cards with photos from the previous year? I&#8217;ll have to dig up my cards and study this bit of trickery with fresh eyes. Even though, as you scholars of the Cardboard Gods point out, this Bill Travers card is indeed from the same photo shoot, the expression is, as Josh remarks, a perfect summation of the Brewers, mid-70&#8242;s. The starting rotation of the &#8217;76 Brewers couldn&#8217;t be more undistinguished (Jim Slaton, Travers, Jim Colburn, Jerry Augustine, and Pete Broberg), despite the best season of Travers&#8217; otherwise mediocre career: 15-16, 2.81, 15 CG.</p>
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		<title>By: Tybalt</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/09/bill-travers/#comment-6395</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;22.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;I, too, get my mail in the NL East while thinking constantly of the AL East.

And I get up and go to work in the AL East, but I will always be in the old NL East, before there was a Central.  

Just as I will always be living (baseballically) in the 80s and 90s, and I will never quite move ahead again, like someone has just lifted the stylus off the record.  I can see the world keep revolving, but the music is just a memory.  RIP Les Expos, Nos Amours...


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>22.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;I, too, get my mail in the NL East while thinking constantly of the AL East.</p>
<p>And I get up and go to work in the AL East, but I will always be in the old NL East, before there was a Central.  </p>
<p>Just as I will always be living (baseballically) in the 80s and 90s, and I will never quite move ahead again, like someone has just lifted the stylus off the record.  I can see the world keep revolving, but the music is just a memory.  RIP Les Expos, Nos Amours&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sly jones</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/09/bill-travers/#comment-6394</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;21.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#19&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;19&lt;/a&gt;  Yes.
A Travers quote from that 1977 baseball guide I keep citing:
&quot;I was so sick, I thought I was going to die. ... I think my age and the fact I was an athlete and in good shape saved me.&quot;

Of course, he still managed to pitch 34 games and 240 innings in 1976, going 15-16 with a 2.81 ERA.
Boy, I wonder how well he would have done if he hadn&#039;t gotten sick.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>21.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#19" rel="nofollow">19</a>  Yes.<br />
A Travers quote from that 1977 baseball guide I keep citing:<br />
&#8220;I was so sick, I thought I was going to die. &#8230; I think my age and the fact I was an athlete and in good shape saved me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, he still managed to pitch 34 games and 240 innings in 1976, going 15-16 with a 2.81 ERA.<br />
Boy, I wonder how well he would have done if he hadn&#8217;t gotten sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/09/bill-travers/#comment-6393</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;20.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#19&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;19&lt;/a&gt; : Thanks for the kind words, Geoff. That Legionairres&#039; disease thing doesn&#039;t ring a bell, but I was probably a little too young still in &#039;76 to be aware of something like that. He does appear to have taken the ball pretty regularly in &#039;76, according to his game-by-game stats for that year on baseball-reference.com.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>20.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#19" rel="nofollow">19</a> : Thanks for the kind words, Geoff. That Legionairres&#8217; disease thing doesn&#8217;t ring a bell, but I was probably a little too young still in &#8217;76 to be aware of something like that. He does appear to have taken the ball pretty regularly in &#8217;76, according to his game-by-game stats for that year on baseball-reference.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Hudson</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/09/bill-travers/#comment-6392</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;19.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Wasn&#039;t it Bill Travers who came down with Legionnaires&#039; disease in 1976? And can it be that this somehow kept him from pitching in the All-Star game that year? I see his face and name, and this association comes unbidden to mind. Anyone else remember?

Josh, a wonderful site. I&#039;ve been reading it in silence for several months now. Your writing is--as so many others have said--transcendent, and, as a baseball-card-collecting New Englander who lived and died with the Red Sox most intensely between 1976 and 1986, I often have an eerie sense of deja-vu as I read. Having recently moved overseas, Cardboard Gods has become a favorite escape where I can soak in memories of that most indelible of times, and enjoy your brilliant, poignant, and amusing flights of association.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>19.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Wasn&#8217;t it Bill Travers who came down with Legionnaires&#8217; disease in 1976? And can it be that this somehow kept him from pitching in the All-Star game that year? I see his face and name, and this association comes unbidden to mind. Anyone else remember?</p>
<p>Josh, a wonderful site. I&#8217;ve been reading it in silence for several months now. Your writing is&#8211;as so many others have said&#8211;transcendent, and, as a baseball-card-collecting New Englander who lived and died with the Red Sox most intensely between 1976 and 1986, I often have an eerie sense of deja-vu as I read. Having recently moved overseas, Cardboard Gods has become a favorite escape where I can soak in memories of that most indelible of times, and enjoy your brilliant, poignant, and amusing flights of association.</p>
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		<title>By: spudrph</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/09/bill-travers/#comment-6391</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;18.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Brilliant!

I, too, get my mail in the NL East while thinking constantly of the AL East. Messes up you regional football games, too-when I&#039;d rather check in on the Jets or Dolphins or Bills, I get the Cowboys or Cardinals or Redskins game.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>18.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Brilliant!</p>
<p>I, too, get my mail in the NL East while thinking constantly of the AL East. Messes up you regional football games, too-when I&#8217;d rather check in on the Jets or Dolphins or Bills, I get the Cowboys or Cardinals or Redskins game.</p>
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		<title>By: Hendu</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/09/bill-travers/#comment-6390</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;17.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;The classic Topps recycling of pictures was the 1974 and 1975 cards of Ralph Garr of the Braves.  Great photo, but it was used back to back years.  

Go Brewers!!!! Been wearing my 1974-1977 Brewers Road cap (just like Travers) steadily this year.  Grew up listening to Uecker and Merle Harmon and rooting for Boomer, Pedro Garcia, The Original Italian Stallion -Bob Coluccio, Davey May, Johnny Briggs, Timmy Johnson, the Money man, Jim Colborn and Kurt Bevaqua.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>17.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;The classic Topps recycling of pictures was the 1974 and 1975 cards of Ralph Garr of the Braves.  Great photo, but it was used back to back years.  </p>
<p>Go Brewers!!!! Been wearing my 1974-1977 Brewers Road cap (just like Travers) steadily this year.  Grew up listening to Uecker and Merle Harmon and rooting for Boomer, Pedro Garcia, The Original Italian Stallion -Bob Coluccio, Davey May, Johnny Briggs, Timmy Johnson, the Money man, Jim Colborn and Kurt Bevaqua.</p>
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		<title>By: a red sox fan from pinstripe territory</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/09/bill-travers/#comment-6389</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;16.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;You just beat me to it, Josh. The white shirt, the A&#039;s--I&#039;d say it was the late-May &#039;74 weekend when the Brewers played in Oakland. The also grabbed Ken Berry, Mike Hegan, Eduardo Rodriguez, and others that day. This further proves that Topps regularly uses pics from two years back as opposed to just the year before. 

Looking at other &#039;75 Brewers cards, I see Kevin Kobel in the old Yankee Stadium. Since it was being renovated in &#039;74, and since he didn&#039;t have the yellow hat panel which was added in &#039;74, the shot has to be from &#039;73. He only pitched in two games that year--one in Yankee Stadium.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>16.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;You just beat me to it, Josh. The white shirt, the A&#8217;s&#8211;I&#8217;d say it was the late-May &#8217;74 weekend when the Brewers played in Oakland. The also grabbed Ken Berry, Mike Hegan, Eduardo Rodriguez, and others that day. This further proves that Topps regularly uses pics from two years back as opposed to just the year before. </p>
<p>Looking at other &#8217;75 Brewers cards, I see Kevin Kobel in the old Yankee Stadium. Since it was being renovated in &#8217;74, and since he didn&#8217;t have the yellow hat panel which was added in &#8217;74, the shot has to be from &#8217;73. He only pitched in two games that year&#8211;one in Yankee Stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/09/bill-travers/#comment-6388</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;15.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#14&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;14&lt;/a&gt; : Yeah, it&#039;s a little easier to see in the original cards, but there appears to be a gaggle of A&#039;s in the background of each card, plus Travers&#039; white T-shirt is poking out from under the neck of his uniform in the same way in each picture. 

Before scrutinizing these two cards I never really pictured the Topps guys taking more than one shot of each player during a shoot, but now I&#039;m imagining the photographer snapping several shots while keeping up a yawning, desultory version of the prototypical fashion photographer (or pornographer) patter. Work it, Bill Travers, work it. Yes, yes, yes.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>15.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#14" rel="nofollow">14</a> : Yeah, it&#8217;s a little easier to see in the original cards, but there appears to be a gaggle of A&#8217;s in the background of each card, plus Travers&#8217; white T-shirt is poking out from under the neck of his uniform in the same way in each picture. </p>
<p>Before scrutinizing these two cards I never really pictured the Topps guys taking more than one shot of each player during a shoot, but now I&#8217;m imagining the photographer snapping several shots while keeping up a yawning, desultory version of the prototypical fashion photographer (or pornographer) patter. Work it, Bill Travers, work it. Yes, yes, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent is a Dodger Fan</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/09/bill-travers/#comment-6387</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;14.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#11&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;11&lt;/a&gt;  That&#039;s so funny that I can&#039;t comment back seriously.

Anyone else think that these Bill Travers cards were two pictures from the same photo shoot? Unlike Bob Bailey&#039;s pictures (same pose, same look, but different background and different uniform), these two pictures look the same in almost every respect, just a slightly different angle.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>14.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#11" rel="nofollow">11</a>  That&#8217;s so funny that I can&#8217;t comment back seriously.</p>
<p>Anyone else think that these Bill Travers cards were two pictures from the same photo shoot? Unlike Bob Bailey&#8217;s pictures (same pose, same look, but different background and different uniform), these two pictures look the same in almost every respect, just a slightly different angle.</p>
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