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		<title>By: Jebstache</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/07/bob-bailey/#comment-6416</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;21.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Bob Bailey lived a couple of blocks from me in 1978.  I went Jr. High with his daughter - she was cute.  She equated her situation with that of a military brat.  The Eck and Taco flipped a jeep after dropping him off one night.  They were drunk and the local cops swept it under the rug.  Such was the &#039;70s.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>21.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Bob Bailey lived a couple of blocks from me in 1978.  I went Jr. High with his daughter &#8211; she was cute.  She equated her situation with that of a military brat.  The Eck and Taco flipped a jeep after dropping him off one night.  They were drunk and the local cops swept it under the rug.  Such was the &#8217;70s.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Romano</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/07/bob-bailey/#comment-6415</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;20.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;In 1971 Clay Kirby went 15-13 with a 2.83 ERA for the Padres.  On that same team Dave Roberts went 14-17 with a 2.10 ERA. With those 2 guys at the top of the rotation how did they manage to lose 100 games.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>20.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;In 1971 Clay Kirby went 15-13 with a 2.83 ERA for the Padres.  On that same team Dave Roberts went 14-17 with a 2.10 ERA. With those 2 guys at the top of the rotation how did they manage to lose 100 games.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/07/bob-bailey/#comment-6414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Wilker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;19.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#18&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;18&lt;/a&gt; : I just checked; looks like the last trace of Don Wilson (&#039;75 card) made it&#039;s way to me.

And yes, Matlack&#039;s full name is present on the back of his &#039;75 card.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>19.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#18" rel="nofollow">18</a> : I just checked; looks like the last trace of Don Wilson (&#8217;75 card) made it&#8217;s way to me.</p>
<p>And yes, Matlack&#8217;s full name is present on the back of his &#8217;75 card.</p>
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		<title>By: sly jones</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/07/bob-bailey/#comment-6413</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;18.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#17&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;17&lt;/a&gt;  Y&#039;know, Josh, given your proclivity for dark stars and unpredictable paths, you&#039;ve never written about Don Wilson.
Did his career (and life) end just before you began to collect?

&lt;a href=&quot;#8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;8&lt;/a&gt; , &lt;a href=&quot;#10&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;10&lt;/a&gt;  Did Jonathan Trumpbour Matlack&#039;s full name ever appear on the back of a card?

And while I&#039;m tossing out random comments:
Every time I see the right side of this page (&quot;The World is a Cardboard Rectangle,&quot; &quot;The World is a Cowhide Sphere&quot;), I always expect to see &quot;The World is a Ghetto.&quot;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>18.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#17" rel="nofollow">17</a>  Y&#8217;know, Josh, given your proclivity for dark stars and unpredictable paths, you&#8217;ve never written about Don Wilson.<br />
Did his career (and life) end just before you began to collect?</p>
<p><a href="#8" rel="nofollow">8</a> , <a href="#10" rel="nofollow">10</a>  Did Jonathan Trumpbour Matlack&#8217;s full name ever appear on the back of a card?</p>
<p>And while I&#8217;m tossing out random comments:<br />
Every time I see the right side of this page (&#8220;The World is a Cardboard Rectangle,&#8221; &#8220;The World is a Cowhide Sphere&#8221;), I always expect to see &#8220;The World is a Ghetto.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sly jones</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/07/bob-bailey/#comment-6412</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;17.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#15&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;15&lt;/a&gt;  Preston Gomez did the same thing to Don Wilson in 1974, in what I think was one of Wilson&#039;s last games.
Same thing happened -- the reliever blew the no-hitter.

Of course, Wilson did throw one or two no-hitters anyway.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>17.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#15" rel="nofollow">15</a>  Preston Gomez did the same thing to Don Wilson in 1974, in what I think was one of Wilson&#8217;s last games.<br />
Same thing happened &#8212; the reliever blew the no-hitter.</p>
<p>Of course, Wilson did throw one or two no-hitters anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/07/bob-bailey/#comment-6411</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Wilker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;16.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#14&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;14&lt;/a&gt; : Bailey certainly meant wood for me. We&#039;re talking about WKRP in Cincinnati, right?

&lt;a href=&quot;#15&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;15&lt;/a&gt; : Jeez, lifted during a no-hitter. That&#039;s rough.

FYI: Some good recent comments on older posts:

Steve Garvey, 1978 (Dodgers); Champ Summers (Reds); Doug Bird (Royals); Dan Quisenberry (Royals); Stan Bahnsen (Expos)


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>16.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#14" rel="nofollow">14</a> : Bailey certainly meant wood for me. We&#8217;re talking about WKRP in Cincinnati, right?</p>
<p><a href="#15" rel="nofollow">15</a> : Jeez, lifted during a no-hitter. That&#8217;s rough.</p>
<p>FYI: Some good recent comments on older posts:</p>
<p>Steve Garvey, 1978 (Dodgers); Champ Summers (Reds); Doug Bird (Royals); Dan Quisenberry (Royals); Stan Bahnsen (Expos)</p>
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		<title>By: El Lay Dave</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/07/07/bob-bailey/#comment-6410</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El Lay Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;15.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#12&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;12&lt;/a&gt;  Speaking of Clay Kirby and no-hitters....

Kirby never did throw a no-no, but I remember a 1970 game - the second year of existence for the San Diego Padres - where he was in the midst of one, but losing 1-0 to the defending World Champion New York Mets after pitching the top of the 8th; two walks, a double steal and a 4-3 groundout had produced a run in the first.  The first Padres manager, Preston Gomez, incited controversy by pinch-hitting for Kirby in the bottom of eighth; explaining that he was trying to win the game.  (The pinch-hitter, current Blue Jays manager Cito Gaston - then known solely as Clarence, I believe, and in the midst of a career year where he would hit .318 with 29 HR - struck out, helping to fan the flames.)  It didn&#039;t help that the relief pitcher allowed two more runs in the ninth, making the game a 3-0 loss.  I recall reading newspaper pundits arguing that the now 38-59 Padres needed the chance at the no-hitter of the defending World Champions from New York and the resulting news coverage had it happened more than a win.

About two months later Kirby had a 1-hit CG win over the Giants allowing only a solo HR to Willie McCovey.  The 1970 Padres finished 63-99 and the franchise has never had a pitcher throw a no-hitter.

[I remembered the incident pretty well (Kirby, 8 innings, 0 hits, removed, Gomez), but thanks to baseball-reference / retrosheet for providing the exact facts.]


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>15.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#12" rel="nofollow">12</a>  Speaking of Clay Kirby and no-hitters&#8230;.</p>
<p>Kirby never did throw a no-no, but I remember a 1970 game &#8211; the second year of existence for the San Diego Padres &#8211; where he was in the midst of one, but losing 1-0 to the defending World Champion New York Mets after pitching the top of the 8th; two walks, a double steal and a 4-3 groundout had produced a run in the first.  The first Padres manager, Preston Gomez, incited controversy by pinch-hitting for Kirby in the bottom of eighth; explaining that he was trying to win the game.  (The pinch-hitter, current Blue Jays manager Cito Gaston &#8211; then known solely as Clarence, I believe, and in the midst of a career year where he would hit .318 with 29 HR &#8211; struck out, helping to fan the flames.)  It didn&#8217;t help that the relief pitcher allowed two more runs in the ninth, making the game a 3-0 loss.  I recall reading newspaper pundits arguing that the now 38-59 Padres needed the chance at the no-hitter of the defending World Champions from New York and the resulting news coverage had it happened more than a win.</p>
<p>About two months later Kirby had a 1-hit CG win over the Giants allowing only a solo HR to Willie McCovey.  The 1970 Padres finished 63-99 and the franchise has never had a pitcher throw a no-hitter.</p>
<p>[I remembered the incident pretty well (Kirby, 8 innings, 0 hits, removed, Gomez), but thanks to baseball-reference / retrosheet for providing the exact facts.]</p>
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		<title>By: JT Dutch</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;14.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;... Gene Mauch said &quot;Bailey means wood.  Bailey doesn&#039;t necessarily mean leather.&quot;

That&#039;s the quote I remember most about Bob.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>14.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&#8230; Gene Mauch said &#8220;Bailey means wood.  Bailey doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean leather.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the quote I remember most about Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Wilker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;13.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#12&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;12&lt;/a&gt; : &quot;the &#039;75 WS Champion Cincinnati bullpen was a confusing place once you got past Rawly Eastwick&quot;

Funny, I always confused Rawly Eastwick with Will McEnany. 

But Pedro Borbon was clearly and inarguably Pedro Borbon.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>13.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#12" rel="nofollow">12</a> : &#8220;the &#8217;75 WS Champion Cincinnati bullpen was a confusing place once you got past Rawly Eastwick&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny, I always confused Rawly Eastwick with Will McEnany. </p>
<p>But Pedro Borbon was clearly and inarguably Pedro Borbon.</p>
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		<title>By: ramblin pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;12.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;9&lt;/a&gt; _ 

Hmm...If Clay Kirby wasn&#039;t Clay Carroll, maybe he was Tom Carroll? 

Regardless, the &#039;75 WS Champion Cincinnati bullpen was a confusing place once you got past Rawly Eastwick. 

Add one other note on those Expos starters that I, as a Met fan, have always found particularly irksome...

Bill Stoneman threw a complete-game no-hitter against Philadelphia on Apr. 17 1969, the &lt;strong&gt;ninth game&lt;/strong&gt; of the Montreal franchise&#039;s existence. 

While us &quot;friends of Mr. Met&quot; have thrown in with Estragon and company for the past 47 seasons...jesus...


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>12.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#9" rel="nofollow">9</a> _ </p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;If Clay Kirby wasn&#8217;t Clay Carroll, maybe he was Tom Carroll? </p>
<p>Regardless, the &#8217;75 WS Champion Cincinnati bullpen was a confusing place once you got past Rawly Eastwick. </p>
<p>Add one other note on those Expos starters that I, as a Met fan, have always found particularly irksome&#8230;</p>
<p>Bill Stoneman threw a complete-game no-hitter against Philadelphia on Apr. 17 1969, the <strong>ninth game</strong> of the Montreal franchise&#8217;s existence. </p>
<p>While us &#8220;friends of Mr. Met&#8221; have thrown in with Estragon and company for the past 47 seasons&#8230;jesus&#8230;</p>
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