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		<title>By: glasspoet1</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/04/09/bill-buckner-2/#comment-9429</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I remember is that Buckner was gotten late and helped Boston to the pennant and was a main contributor in the World Series, despite playing in constant pain from wrecked knees. There is no doubting the man and his family was treated unfairly by the fan base, even if it was the media who provided the impetus.

Buckner is an update in my all-time greats. He didn&#039;t strike out much, played several positions well and was an overall high-quality steady player, who helped several teams when they needed it. There is now even a chance that, someday, he could make the Hall of Fame; now that Boston has won their pennants (sic).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I remember is that Buckner was gotten late and helped Boston to the pennant and was a main contributor in the World Series, despite playing in constant pain from wrecked knees. There is no doubting the man and his family was treated unfairly by the fan base, even if it was the media who provided the impetus.</p>
<p>Buckner is an update in my all-time greats. He didn&#8217;t strike out much, played several positions well and was an overall high-quality steady player, who helped several teams when they needed it. There is now even a chance that, someday, he could make the Hall of Fame; now that Boston has won their pennants (sic).</p>
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		<title>By: hendersonmurphyarmas</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;23.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;oops. should be &quot;portend the&quot; (no &quot;of&quot;). and lowercase that &quot;a&quot; after what should be an em dash.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>23.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;oops. should be &#8220;portend the&#8221; (no &#8220;of&#8221;). and lowercase that &#8220;a&#8221; after what should be an em dash.</p>
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		<title>By: hendersonmurphyarmas</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/04/09/bill-buckner-2/#comment-5669</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;22.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Bosox fans should have seen BB&#039;s gaffe coming. He was tainted by the fates back in &#039;74, when he talked shit about my beloved A&#039;s. Sure, he got a showered in garbage for opening his cake hole, but proof of the hex came in the 8th inning of game 5, when he got nailed trying to stretch a leadoff double into a triple with LA down a run -- A boneheaded move that would portend of the boneheadedness to come 12 years later ...


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>22.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Bosox fans should have seen BB&#8217;s gaffe coming. He was tainted by the fates back in &#8217;74, when he talked shit about my beloved A&#8217;s. Sure, he got a showered in garbage for opening his cake hole, but proof of the hex came in the 8th inning of game 5, when he got nailed trying to stretch a leadoff double into a triple with LA down a run &#8212; A boneheaded move that would portend of the boneheadedness to come 12 years later &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brent is a Dodger Fan</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/04/09/bill-buckner-2/#comment-5668</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;21.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Late to the party, but...

&lt;strong&gt;Excerpt from the &quot;Guide to Being a Media-Savvy Professional Sports Figure&quot;:&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;When discussing people who watch you or your team, you must be clear on two things:

&quot;1) &#039;The Fans&#039; are always great.  Use this collective noun, &#039;the Fans&#039;, any time you feel like offering praise to the people who watch you or your team.  Do this often. Example: &#039;The Fans here in (your city) are the very best in all of (your sport)&#039;.

&quot;2) Never use the collective noun, &#039;the Fans&#039;, when you are feeling critical.  Never use the word &#039;Fan&#039; at all, in fact, when feeling critical.  Do not say &#039;The Fans need to be more patient.&#039;  Do not say &#039;Some fans are spoiling the fun&#039;.  Instead, if you absolutely must express your frustration, use the words &#039;some people&#039; and combine liberally with the word &#039;unfortunately&#039;.  Example, &#039;Unfortunately, some people are spoiling it for the Fans.&#039;

I wrote that (above) because, not having paid much attention to the Buckner-hating, I&#039;ve found the recent explanation (that the media did it) to be a partial truth.  I believe I have heard Buckner previously quoted as saying that he gets hate-mail and is otherwise mistreated by &lt;strong&gt;some people&lt;/strong&gt; (who are spoiling it for the Fans).

&lt;a href=&quot;#12&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;12&lt;/a&gt;  Observation about the famous clip of Buckner&#039;s error in 1986.  Baseball players (on defense) have a directive for every situation and every play, and those directives keep players in motion until the ball is dead.  What made the tv-clip so interesting is that one rarely ever sees the ball rolling away with no one running after it.  Since the game was basically over at that point, it is like the deep fly ball bouncing harmlessly past the drawn-in outfielders -- a strange sight...  Why is no one going after it?  Oh...


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>21.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Late to the party, but&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Excerpt from the &#8220;Guide to Being a Media-Savvy Professional Sports Figure&#8221;:</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;When discussing people who watch you or your team, you must be clear on two things:</p>
<p>&#8220;1) &#8216;The Fans&#8217; are always great.  Use this collective noun, &#8216;the Fans&#8217;, any time you feel like offering praise to the people who watch you or your team.  Do this often. Example: &#8216;The Fans here in (your city) are the very best in all of (your sport)&#8217;.</p>
<p>&#8220;2) Never use the collective noun, &#8216;the Fans&#8217;, when you are feeling critical.  Never use the word &#8216;Fan&#8217; at all, in fact, when feeling critical.  Do not say &#8216;The Fans need to be more patient.&#8217;  Do not say &#8216;Some fans are spoiling the fun&#8217;.  Instead, if you absolutely must express your frustration, use the words &#8216;some people&#8217; and combine liberally with the word &#8216;unfortunately&#8217;.  Example, &#8216;Unfortunately, some people are spoiling it for the Fans.&#8217;</p>
<p>I wrote that (above) because, not having paid much attention to the Buckner-hating, I&#8217;ve found the recent explanation (that the media did it) to be a partial truth.  I believe I have heard Buckner previously quoted as saying that he gets hate-mail and is otherwise mistreated by <strong>some people</strong> (who are spoiling it for the Fans).</p>
<p><a href="#12" rel="nofollow">12</a>  Observation about the famous clip of Buckner&#8217;s error in 1986.  Baseball players (on defense) have a directive for every situation and every play, and those directives keep players in motion until the ball is dead.  What made the tv-clip so interesting is that one rarely ever sees the ball rolling away with no one running after it.  Since the game was basically over at that point, it is like the deep fly ball bouncing harmlessly past the drawn-in outfielders &#8212; a strange sight&#8230;  Why is no one going after it?  Oh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/04/09/bill-buckner-2/#comment-5667</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;20.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#19&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;19&lt;/a&gt; : Yeah, I&#039;ve also heard the passed ball case--It may have been too good of a sinker. So in that case Stanley shouldn&#039;t have ever taken any blame, except maybe in so far as his mere appearance on the scene brought on an aura of unstoppable gloom (which is certainly how I remember it going down in my own experience of watching the game). 

As for Gedman, he&#039;s a local boy, grew up a Sox fan. I may have been mad at him for a while at one time, but I cheered my guts out for him as he passed me by on the duckboats in the parade in &#039;04. Redemption for all. That&#039;s how I see it.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>20.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#19" rel="nofollow">19</a> : Yeah, I&#8217;ve also heard the passed ball case&#8211;It may have been too good of a sinker. So in that case Stanley shouldn&#8217;t have ever taken any blame, except maybe in so far as his mere appearance on the scene brought on an aura of unstoppable gloom (which is certainly how I remember it going down in my own experience of watching the game). </p>
<p>As for Gedman, he&#8217;s a local boy, grew up a Sox fan. I may have been mad at him for a while at one time, but I cheered my guts out for him as he passed me by on the duckboats in the parade in &#8217;04. Redemption for all. That&#8217;s how I see it.</p>
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		<title>By: player to be named later</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/04/09/bill-buckner-2/#comment-5666</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;19.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#16&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;16&lt;/a&gt;  I blamed, and blame, Stanley and Rich Bleeping Gedman.  I remember thinking at the time that the play that plated Mitchell should have been scored a passed ball, not a wild pitch.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>19.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#16" rel="nofollow">16</a>  I blamed, and blame, Stanley and Rich Bleeping Gedman.  I remember thinking at the time that the play that plated Mitchell should have been scored a passed ball, not a wild pitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/04/09/bill-buckner-2/#comment-5665</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;18.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;...Jimmy Fund, that is.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>18.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&#8230;Jimmy Fund, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/04/09/bill-buckner-2/#comment-5664</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;17.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#16&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;16&lt;/a&gt; : I tried to stay away from those highlights too.

Stanley. Yeah. I don&#039;t have any blame anymore, really, except maybe for MacNamara (and Bill Lee-hating Don Zimmer), but even in the pre-&#039;04 years I couldn&#039;t really come down too hard on Stanley, that pearshaped tragicomic shlub. How can a guy who just wasn&#039;t that great shoulder the blame?

And not for nothing, but I believe I&#039;ve heard that he&#039;s a really good guy who&#039;s worked tirelessly for the Jimmy Find.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>17.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#16" rel="nofollow">16</a> : I tried to stay away from those highlights too.</p>
<p>Stanley. Yeah. I don&#8217;t have any blame anymore, really, except maybe for MacNamara (and Bill Lee-hating Don Zimmer), but even in the pre-&#8217;04 years I couldn&#8217;t really come down too hard on Stanley, that pearshaped tragicomic shlub. How can a guy who just wasn&#8217;t that great shoulder the blame?</p>
<p>And not for nothing, but I believe I&#8217;ve heard that he&#8217;s a really good guy who&#8217;s worked tirelessly for the Jimmy Find.</p>
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		<title>By: john mcd</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;16.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;As a life long Red Sox fan (living in NJ), I couldn&#039;t even watch the 1986 highlights until they won in 2004.  

Right after that WS the 1918 chant started on a regular basis from both Yankees and Mets fans.  The only comeback I had was the equally obnoxious 1940.

My best friend was a huge Ranger fan and after the Rangers won and skated around with the Cup, I called him and congratulated him. 

I told him it was the most incredible celebration I had ever seen and for the first time I felt happy for a NY fan.

In 2004 he responded in kind.  

I never blamed Buckner, I watched the pregame ceremony with tears in my eyes.

I still blame Bob Stanley. He cost me 1978 and 1986.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>16.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;As a life long Red Sox fan (living in NJ), I couldn&#8217;t even watch the 1986 highlights until they won in 2004.  </p>
<p>Right after that WS the 1918 chant started on a regular basis from both Yankees and Mets fans.  The only comeback I had was the equally obnoxious 1940.</p>
<p>My best friend was a huge Ranger fan and after the Rangers won and skated around with the Cup, I called him and congratulated him. </p>
<p>I told him it was the most incredible celebration I had ever seen and for the first time I felt happy for a NY fan.</p>
<p>In 2004 he responded in kind.  </p>
<p>I never blamed Buckner, I watched the pregame ceremony with tears in my eyes.</p>
<p>I still blame Bob Stanley. He cost me 1978 and 1986.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;15.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#14&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;14&lt;/a&gt; : 

CORRECTION:

I was informed by a friend of mine that I have misunderstood what being &quot;run out of town on a rail&quot; entailed. To quote my friend (a doctor of physics, no less):

&quot;Riding the rail was a punishment of Colonial America in which a man was made to straddle a fence rail held on the shoulders of two men, with other men on either side to keep him upright on the rail. The victim was then paraded around town. Alternately it can refer to tying a person&#039;s hands and feet around a rail so the person dangles under the rail... Here&#039;s an excerpt from Mark Twain&#039;s Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that should help you visualize being &quot;run out on a rail&quot; (a rail being a wooden post): &#039;here comes a raging rush of people with torches, and an awful whooping and yelling, and banging tin pans and blowing horns; and we jumped to one side to let them go by; and as they went by I see they had the king and the duke astraddle of a rail--that is, I knowed it WAS the king and the duke, though they was all over tar and feathers, and didn&#039;t look like nothing in the world that was human--just looked like a couple of monstrous big soldier-plumes.&#039; The practice can also be noted in a scene from &#039;O Brother Where Art Thou?&#039;&quot;

I stand happily corrected.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>15.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#14" rel="nofollow">14</a> : </p>
<p>CORRECTION:</p>
<p>I was informed by a friend of mine that I have misunderstood what being &#8220;run out of town on a rail&#8221; entailed. To quote my friend (a doctor of physics, no less):</p>
<p>&#8220;Riding the rail was a punishment of Colonial America in which a man was made to straddle a fence rail held on the shoulders of two men, with other men on either side to keep him upright on the rail. The victim was then paraded around town. Alternately it can refer to tying a person&#8217;s hands and feet around a rail so the person dangles under the rail&#8230; Here&#8217;s an excerpt from Mark Twain&#8217;s Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that should help you visualize being &#8220;run out on a rail&#8221; (a rail being a wooden post): &#8216;here comes a raging rush of people with torches, and an awful whooping and yelling, and banging tin pans and blowing horns; and we jumped to one side to let them go by; and as they went by I see they had the king and the duke astraddle of a rail&#8211;that is, I knowed it WAS the king and the duke, though they was all over tar and feathers, and didn&#8217;t look like nothing in the world that was human&#8211;just looked like a couple of monstrous big soldier-plumes.&#8217; The practice can also be noted in a scene from &#8216;O Brother Where Art Thou?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>I stand happily corrected.</p>
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