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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/28/garry-maddox-1975/#comment-4473</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;18.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#17&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;17&lt;/a&gt; : Yeah, I noticed the misspelling when it was too late and just as I was patting myself on the back for using it. D&#039;oh!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>18.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#17" rel="nofollow">17</a> : Yeah, I noticed the misspelling when it was too late and just as I was patting myself on the back for using it. D&#8217;oh!</p>
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		<title>By: CMcFood</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/28/garry-maddox-1975/#comment-4472</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;17.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Another excellent piece, Josh. I used to know the difference between Maddox and Matthews, but I don&#039;t anymore. I&#039;m sure my brother, who is a life long Giants fan, and who is also named Gary, still knows the difference between them. But in 1968, when the Oakland A&#039;s came to my city, I stopped caring much about the Giants and started loving the A&#039;s.

Oh, and, btw, if you&#039;re going to bust out the three dollar words, make sure you spell them correctly, i.e. &quot;oleaginously&quot;. :)

Just kidding, I love looking up new words in the dictionary. Hopefully I&#039;ll never stop learning.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>17.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Another excellent piece, Josh. I used to know the difference between Maddox and Matthews, but I don&#8217;t anymore. I&#8217;m sure my brother, who is a life long Giants fan, and who is also named Gary, still knows the difference between them. But in 1968, when the Oakland A&#8217;s came to my city, I stopped caring much about the Giants and started loving the A&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Oh, and, btw, if you&#8217;re going to bust out the three dollar words, make sure you spell them correctly, i.e. &#8220;oleaginously&#8221;. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just kidding, I love looking up new words in the dictionary. Hopefully I&#8217;ll never stop learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Ennui Willie Keeler</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/28/garry-maddox-1975/#comment-4471</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;16.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Maddox is also one ex-player who was later associated with the Fed.  Designated Runner Herb Washington is another.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>16.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Maddox is also one ex-player who was later associated with the Fed.  Designated Runner Herb Washington is another.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/28/garry-maddox-1975/#comment-4470</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;15.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;13&lt;/a&gt; : I think the primal blurring of Garry Maddox and Gary Matthews did eventually separate for me, a little, maybe because since I&#039;m a little younger than you and was still paying prepubescently rapt attention in the early &#039;80s when Sarge got clearly wider and slower than The Minister of Defense.

&lt;a href=&quot;#14&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;14&lt;/a&gt; : Thanks, Conrad! (A sample of my uncle Conrad&#039;s poetry is available online at the site below.)

http://www.acarts.org/mystic/MRR4squires.html


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>15.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#13" rel="nofollow">13</a> : I think the primal blurring of Garry Maddox and Gary Matthews did eventually separate for me, a little, maybe because since I&#8217;m a little younger than you and was still paying prepubescently rapt attention in the early &#8217;80s when Sarge got clearly wider and slower than The Minister of Defense.</p>
<p><a href="#14" rel="nofollow">14</a> : Thanks, Conrad! (A sample of my uncle Conrad&#8217;s poetry is available online at the site below.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.acarts.org/mystic/MRR4squires.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.acarts.org/mystic/MRR4squires.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Con Squires</title>
		<link>http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/28/garry-maddox-1975/#comment-4469</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;14.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Dear Josh,

I never seem to get around to reading these, but Jenny sent me this one and I think it is a really fine piece of writing.  I don&#039;t want to say anything really fatuous, but I loved it!  (so I did, anyway.)

Warm regards, Con


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>14.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Dear Josh,</p>
<p>I never seem to get around to reading these, but Jenny sent me this one and I think it is a really fine piece of writing.  I don&#8217;t want to say anything really fatuous, but I loved it!  (so I did, anyway.)</p>
<p>Warm regards, Con</p>
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		<title>By: ramblin pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;13.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;I too was born feet-first and jaundiced, both literally and figuratively, but I spent my childhood (and most of my adulthood) confusing Garry Maddox with Garry Matthews. 

It didn&#039;t hurt that they were always on the same team, having both been &quot;drafted&quot; by the Giants in 1968, and that both played the same position, batted right, threw right, stood 6&#039;3&quot;, consistently hit  about .285, wore afros and beards, and had similar speed and power. 

Only Maddox was &quot;DRAFTED&quot; though. 
And he was better defensively, but what does that matter when you&#039;re a ten year-old card-collecting kid who knows the players primarily from their cardboard likenesses?

Even more confusing was that the civilian, Matthews, was known as &quot;Sarge,&quot; and just to exacerbate everything, Matthews later joined Maddox on the Phillies in the early &#039;80s, just when they seemed to be developing their own identities in card-flipping land, (or was it the other way around?). 

Furthermore each saw fit to sire a male namesake who pursued a career in professional baseball.  (Obviously Matthews Jr. achieved a more lucrative stuation.... I think....) 

I am still confused, and apparently I&#039;m not the only one.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel lists Matthews as a Vietnam Vet in a 1999 article about the firing of Blue Jay skipper Tim Johnson, ostensibly for having fabricated wild tales of his combat heroics in the jungles of &#039;Nam. (He was actually a stateside reservist.)

www2.jsonline.com/sports/brew/wed/cam31799.asp 

Did the author mean Maddox?... Am I just getting confused?... Actually, am I having deja vu? ... Didn&#039;t we already have this posting and discussion before?...


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>13.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;I too was born feet-first and jaundiced, both literally and figuratively, but I spent my childhood (and most of my adulthood) confusing Garry Maddox with Garry Matthews. </p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t hurt that they were always on the same team, having both been &#8220;drafted&#8221; by the Giants in 1968, and that both played the same position, batted right, threw right, stood 6&#8217;3&#8243;, consistently hit  about .285, wore afros and beards, and had similar speed and power. </p>
<p>Only Maddox was &#8220;DRAFTED&#8221; though.<br />
And he was better defensively, but what does that matter when you&#8217;re a ten year-old card-collecting kid who knows the players primarily from their cardboard likenesses?</p>
<p>Even more confusing was that the civilian, Matthews, was known as &#8220;Sarge,&#8221; and just to exacerbate everything, Matthews later joined Maddox on the Phillies in the early &#8217;80s, just when they seemed to be developing their own identities in card-flipping land, (or was it the other way around?). </p>
<p>Furthermore each saw fit to sire a male namesake who pursued a career in professional baseball.  (Obviously Matthews Jr. achieved a more lucrative stuation&#8230;. I think&#8230;.) </p>
<p>I am still confused, and apparently I&#8217;m not the only one.</p>
<p>The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel lists Matthews as a Vietnam Vet in a 1999 article about the firing of Blue Jay skipper Tim Johnson, ostensibly for having fabricated wild tales of his combat heroics in the jungles of &#8216;Nam. (He was actually a stateside reservist.)</p>
<p>www2.jsonline.com/sports/brew/wed/cam31799.asp </p>
<p>Did the author mean Maddox?&#8230; Am I just getting confused?&#8230; Actually, am I having deja vu? &#8230; Didn&#8217;t we already have this posting and discussion before?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wireroom</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;12.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;10 Damn, I totally have respect for him after reading that.  Maybe it was the promise of baseball when he returned home that helped him out.

I saw first hand what that war did to one my uncles.  One of the funniest mothers you could ever meet, but being in Vietnam fucked him up and he could never get over shooting at 14 year old kids who were trying to steal from their supplies.  That isn&#039;t to blame the Vietnam war on my uncles drug problems and eventual death from it, but I think it pitched in overall.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>12.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;10 Damn, I totally have respect for him after reading that.  Maybe it was the promise of baseball when he returned home that helped him out.</p>
<p>I saw first hand what that war did to one my uncles.  One of the funniest mothers you could ever meet, but being in Vietnam fucked him up and he could never get over shooting at 14 year old kids who were trying to steal from their supplies.  That isn&#8217;t to blame the Vietnam war on my uncles drug problems and eventual death from it, but I think it pitched in overall.</p>
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		<title>By: wireroom</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;11.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;8 Wasn&#039;t it only recently that the US government recognized the Vietnam War as a war and not just an exercise?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>11.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;8 Wasn&#8217;t it only recently that the US government recognized the Vietnam War as a war and not just an exercise?</p>
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		<title>By: chiros13</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;10.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;From Baseball Reference:

&quot;Maddox served in the Army, including a tour in Vietnam, during the 1969 and 1970 seasons. Exposure to chemicals in Vietnam left his skin highly sensitive, and he has always since worn a full beard to protect his face.&quot;

I remember seeing him sitting a few rows in front of me at a Sixers game when I was probably 10 years old.  My father prodded to go up to him and say hi and that I was a fan.  I did go up to him, and I remember him being nice, but I mostly remember not wanting to interrupt him while he was enjoying the Sixers.  (And how could you not enjoy the Sixers during the Dawkins era?)

But I never really knew about his Vietnam service until now.  Maybe in my pre-teen years, it just never sunk in.  I have a new respect for him now.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>10.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;From Baseball Reference:</p>
<p>&#8220;Maddox served in the Army, including a tour in Vietnam, during the 1969 and 1970 seasons. Exposure to chemicals in Vietnam left his skin highly sensitive, and he has always since worn a full beard to protect his face.&#8221;</p>
<p>I remember seeing him sitting a few rows in front of me at a Sixers game when I was probably 10 years old.  My father prodded to go up to him and say hi and that I was a fan.  I did go up to him, and I remember him being nice, but I mostly remember not wanting to interrupt him while he was enjoying the Sixers.  (And how could you not enjoy the Sixers during the Dawkins era?)</p>
<p>But I never really knew about his Vietnam service until now.  Maybe in my pre-teen years, it just never sunk in.  I have a new respect for him now.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Wilker</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;9.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;#7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;7&lt;/a&gt; : I don&#039;t know what Maddox did in Vietnam, and I don&#039;t know how it affected him, but he has followed his excellent playing career with an extremely successful business career. He&#039;s a Macher.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a></a>9.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="#7" rel="nofollow">7</a> : I don&#8217;t know what Maddox did in Vietnam, and I don&#8217;t know how it affected him, but he has followed his excellent playing career with an extremely successful business career. He&#8217;s a Macher.</p>
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