Comments on: The Best Everyday Player of the 1970s http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/ Voice of the Mathematically Eliminated Wed, 30 May 2012 18:37:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: ramblinpete http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-9252 Sun, 31 May 2009 16:53:08 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-9252 Re: 5, 6: (The Beasties):

I think Paul’s Boutique was definitely their creative high point.

I’ll give ‘em additional props for name-checking ’73-era NY Knicks
reserve Hawthorne Wingo on the same album.

]]> By: sb1902 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4553 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:36:15 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4553 19.  Toy, you are absolutely correct, the ’70s were a great time for baseball, lots of great, competing dynasties, a richness in all facets of the game. I think of 1980 (OK, not the ’80s, close enough) and in the same game you could see a guy with 75 steals, another with 40 homers, another hitting .350, a 20 game winner and a 40 save guy. I can’t think of another time where all aspects of the game shared the field at the same time.

]]> By: ToyCannon http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4552 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:11:38 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4552 18.  Those Red and Dodger teams dominated the NL in the 1970′s.
1970 – Reds
1971- Pirates
1972 – Reds
1973 – Mets
1974 – Dodgers
1975 – Reds
1976 – Reds
1977 – Dodgers
1978 – Dodgers
1979 – Pirates

Only 2 teams were able to keep the Reds or Dodgers out of the World Series during this decade. Seems to me the Reds did about as good as you can do. The Dodgers didn’t lose a playoff series during the decade. If they made the playoffs they were headed to the World Series. The great Philly teams couldn’t get past the Reds or Dodgers losing 3 straight conference playoff series from 1976-1978. The Giants in 1971 were the only other team to come out of the Western Divison during the 1970′s besides the Dodgers or Reds. For baseball fans was the 1970′s the greatest generation of baseball?

]]> By: Josh Wilker http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4551 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:48:48 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4551 17.  14 : James ranks Ted Williams as the top leftfielder, but it stands to reason that Oscar Charleston, who ranks higher overall, could handle a switch from centerfield to leftfield.

16 : And don’t forget the Royals and Phillies.

]]> By: Scott Long http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4550 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 06:31:15 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4550 16.  If the votes were still being tabulated, I would have to go with Morgan slightly over Bench. When you look at the everyday lineup of the Reds, it really makes you wonder how they didn’t win more championships. I mean they weren’t the Orioles of the 70′s, but Gullett, Nolan, and Billingham weren’t that shabby. Oh yeah, it might have had something to do with the 70′s being the best decade for great team depth. (I know I’m age-biased and I’m throwing that off the top of my head, but the Reds, A’s, Pirates, Orioles, Dodgers, Yankees, and Red Sox all had a number of excellent teams in the 70′s. I’ve been working on a piece that mirrors a little of what I mention above. The best decade for sports.

]]> By: Suffering Bruin http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4549 Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:43:59 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4549 15.  Some will want Barry Bonds. Some will say even if he did use, you still had to hit the ball. And they are right, of course. But you can’t hit the ball from where he’s going (prison) so he ain’t playing.

]]> By: Suffering Bruin http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4548 Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:40:47 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4548 14.  Position by position, James would have this, I think:

C – Josh Gibson
1b- Lou Gehrig
2b- Joe Morgan
3b- Mike Schmidt
ss- Honus Wagner
lf- Oscar Charleston
cf- Willie Mays
rf- Babe Ruth
sp- Walter Johnson

I’ll pass on playing against these guys.

]]> By: Josh Wilker http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4547 Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:05:28 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4547 13.  10 : And Bench surges into third place in the voting.

11 : Aw, I was just kidding with the “derivative” remark. Both great lines, both great songs. Sure Shot is probably my all-time favorite Beasties song, and Hey Ladies is from my favorite Beastie’s album. (And I agree that Carew makes more sense with reference to “hits.”)

12 : James ranks Musial 10th behind, from the top, Ruth, Wagner, Mays, Oscar Charleston, Cobb, Mantle, Ted Williams, Walter Johnson, and Josh Gibson.

]]> By: paulz http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4546 Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:48:03 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4546 12.  1) Been drinking.

2) Great to see someone referencing the Beasties and in the exact same manner that I strove to do just a week or less ago. Too bad I didn’t put the quote in, thank you Brent the Dodger Fan.

3) Glad to see some love for Stan the Man.

4) (and the only real, worthwhile point of this post) Where exactly does Stan the Man rank in the all time players list that James proposes? (Sorry, I don’t have the book and I just spent too much money for my books for this last semester (yes, last semester, I’m graduating and there isn’t a day that that notion doesn’t send shivers down my spine.)).

5) Thanks for posting something for me to read whilst drunk tonight, Cardboard Gods has been an enlightening experience.

]]> By: Brent is a Dodger Fan http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4545 Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:24:09 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2008/01/11/the-best-everyday-player-of-the-1970s/#comment-4545 11.  6 Wow. You got me.

I’m not really much of a Beastie Boys fan, so I had to look up the “Hey Ladies” reference to see that it was from Paul’s Boutique, earlier than “Sure Shot” from Ill Communication, 8 years later. To call the couplet derivative, when it refers back to their earlier work, is possibly the wrong word, but I get your point.

However, Oh wasn’t on the list of players we were considering for the Cardboard Gods decade-player. Besides, I like the phrasing “mad hits like” better than “more hits than”, and “hits like I was Rod Carew” is more appropriate, since Carew was known for his high batting average, while Oh was known for his 800 dingers…

I do hope you like the fact that I used that lyric in making my choice!

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