Comments on: What’s the difference? http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/ Voice of the Mathematically Eliminated Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:42:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Catfish326 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2703 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:17:44 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2703 37.  Check out this cartoon concerning the Indians logo:

http://blogs.citypages.com/sports/images/cleveland_indians.gif

]]> By: El Lay Dave http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2702 Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:51:39 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2702 36.  Somehow I missed seeing that this topic was here yesterday.

Josh, you are in good company, for this is also the current topic on Joe Posnanski’s blog:
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2007/10/17/wahoo/

FWIW, the Atlanta Braves eliminated “Chief Noc-A-Homa” over twenty years ago. That character had only a quarter-century or so history compared to sixty years (and counting) of Chief Wahoo, but shouldn’t it be a relatively simple matter to change the team logo? Plus, don’t teams these days change logos and color schemes regularly in order to stimulate mechandise sales?

]]> By: Josh Wilker http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2701 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:35:50 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2701 35.  33 : Thanks for pointing that out.

34 : I can’t say that it was, but thanks for the link to that obit. The post was really driven more by good old fashioned losing-team bitterness more than anything else, so I especially appreciate the many thoughtful comments people came up with to raise the discussion above the “sour grapes” realm of discourse.

]]> By: dianagramr http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2700 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:08:58 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2700 34.  Josh, was your post driven by the passing of this man?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/17/sports/17bellecourt.html?ref=obituaries

]]> By: dianagramr http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2699 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:03:59 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2699 33.  1

FWIW, a picture of 2 of the “fans” is currently on the main page of ESPN.com

Wonder if ESPN.com will get any criticism?

]]> By: StolenMonkey86 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2698 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:07:40 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2698 32.  18 ,20 – I was referring to Worcester v. Georgia, where Jackson defied the Supreme Court and forced the Cherokee out.

]]> By: Josh Wilker http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2697 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:53:23 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2697 31.  28 : And don’t forget the grand-pere of caricature as art form/political satire, Honore Daumier (for more see Daumier Drawings–http://www.amazon.fr/Daumier-Drawings-Colta-Feller-Ives/dp/toc/0300085893–featuring a chronology by Daumier scholar Jenny Squires “Mom” Wilker.)

]]> By: Zack http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2696 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:49:16 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2696 30.  27 Wow, that one is worse, which I didn’t think was possible

]]> By: Zack http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2695 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:48:07 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2695 29.  28 that is more than fair. I didn’t mean caricature as a whole, mostly when used in this particular form. Besides, I have nothing against those Disneyland/amusement park ones either :)

]]> By: Linkmeister http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2694 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:41:45 +0000 http://cardboardgods.net/2007/10/16/whats-the-difference/#comment-2694 28.  Zack, I agree with most of what you said there, but please don’t assign negative values to caricature art as a whole. Thomas Nast used it to denigrate Tammany (a bunch of white guys), Herblock used it to denigrate Nixon (a white guy), and Vuckovich and Oliphant use it to denigrate Bush (a white guy). Caricature is an equal-opportunity medium.

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